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Scott Lane's avatar

Thanks for researching and presenting a very thoughtful article.

Is it fair to say that part of this issue is how inclusive we make a definition of manufacturing, whereby an administrative person located in the front office of a manufacturing site might consider themselves to be "in manufacturing," even though they do not directly manufacture anything? I think the (overly simplistic) definition of what manufacturing is would be something like, "to take one thing and add it to another thing to produce a third thing." Anyone who isn't doing that with their hands or operating a machine that does that isn't a manufacturing employee, but they may still be engaged in the manufacturing industry. Instead, they are employed in administrative, repair, human resource, or other supporting roles. While it's tempting to modify the definition of "manufacturer" to include these technical, logistics, and other support functions because of the explosive roles of technology and offshoring have had on the industry, I think it would be doing a disservice to the millions of people who are no longer employed as a manufacturer, thereby doing damage to the overall understanding of how this industry has changed over time. (Although maybe not, since all the metrics show the same drops since 1975-1980; if you take out the 2008/9 recession/recovery, it's almost a straight line down and to the right.) To be "in manufacturing" now, I would advise people to consider a degree in one of the support functions.

A long-winded way of saying I think your ultimate conclusion about relying on more than one metric is sound, as is very carefully defining the variables used. Again, great work...thank you!

Greg Barbieri's avatar

Great detail, I had no idea there were this many sources of job classifications, nonetheless that they differed so greatly.

Does the BDS use *primary* NAICS or does the business list all NAICS they operate in?

Similar to holding multiple jobs, businesses can operate in multiple industries, like the janitors in manufacturing.

Thanks again!

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